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    Default FAQ: Single Turbo Conversion

    This thread is still under construction. I will gradually add more info. If you have links and info which would be useful please post it in a reply so that I can add it in. Im not an expert, im only posting up info that I have found and read on the net to make it easier to find. Any input from other members is appreciated...

    I believe most Supra owners can be put into two categories. Those that have gone single, and those that want to go single. Its inevitable, most of us will end up doing the big single conversion. With the strong aussie dollar and availability of parts the conversions are becoming more and more popular as many would have noticed with the increase in "which turbo should I get" threads.

    I am also planning a single conversion, and have been researching it for the past 6 months. For all you guys out there planning a single conversion, I cant stress how important research is. It can save you thousands of dollars! And by research I dont mean simply posting a thread hoping that everyone will answer your questions. Im talking about reading everything. Aussie forums, American Forums, UK forums.... the SEARCH function is your friend.

    It does take alot of time to go through the thousands of threads on the forums looking for the answers to your questions, so out of the kindness of my heart I have decided to post this thread with alot of the research I have been doing into the single conversion. Its also to help me keep track of stuff that I have read so that I can go back and refer to it later.

    There is heaps of info to put in here and I wont be doing it all at once, so expect updates with more info.


    STEP 1 - WHY DO YOU WANT TO GO SINGLE?

    Is it for show, is it for bragging rights, is it for track work, dyno or drags. By answering this question you will start to narrow down your options for turbos.

    STEP 2 - HOW MUCH POWER DO YOU WANT?

    How far do you want to go? What is your goal/target? Again the answer to this question will determine which turbo you go for. It will also effect what support mods you require. some people speak in KW some people speak in HP click for conversion.

    STEP 3 - CHOOSING A TURBO

    Choose the turbo to suit your application. Most of the popular turbos can be purchased as a kit, or you can buy all the parts separately which will probably save you money. The most popular turbos are Garrett GT30, Garrett GT35, Garrett GT3540, Garrett T04Z, HKS T04Z, HKS T51, Trust T67, Trust T78, Trust T88

    A few threads worth reading:

    APC Racing Turbo Comparison: GT3040, GT3540, T04E, T04Z, T51SPL, T88-33D

    T78 vs GT3540R

    GT3540 vs T04Z

    Whats the most power achievable out of a T04Z

    Discussion about GT35, T04Z, T51 and T78

    Discussion about T04Z

    About the HKS T04Z - includes high Res photos

    Discussion about various single turbo options

    Billet turbos


    Garrett GT30

    Rating: 500HP
    Compressor A/R: .70
    Compressor Trim: 52
    Compressor Wheel: 2.17/3.00
    Turbine A/R: .82
    Turbine Trim: 90
    Turbine Wheel: 2.11/2.22


    Garrett GT35

    Rating: 600HP
    Compressor A/R: .70
    Compressor Trim: 52
    Compressor Wheel: 2.25/3.00
    Turbine A/R: .63, .82, 1.06
    Turbine Trim: 84
    Turbine Wheel: 2.16/2.36


    Garrett GT3540 (GT3582 or GT35R)

    Rating: 700HP
    Compressor A/R: .70
    Compressor Trim: 54
    Compressor Wheel: 2.41/3.22
    Turbine A/R: .63, .83, 1.06
    Turbine Trim: 84
    Turbine Wheel: 2.45/2.68


    CLICK HERE FOR MORE TURBO SPECS

    Links to Manufacturers:

    Garrett
    HKS USA
    HKS Australian Distributers
    GREDDY
    Turbonetics,
    Borg Warner

    Other things to keep in mind when choosing a turbo. Internal or external gate? the smaller turbos such as GT30s and GT35s are available with internal gates which means you dont have to purchase an additional waste gate. Most of the cheaper aftermarket manifolds that you can pick up online come with a T4 flange. Consider that when choosing your exhaust housing. If you have to change the flange on the manifold or get an adaptor again thats another expense.


    The Garrett website has an excellent Tech section if you want to read up on all the technical terms <click>

    The T04R website has an excellent feature which allows you to overlay dyno graphs from different cars. These guys are all running big HP setups and their Dynos always read alot higher than ours but it is a good comparison. <click>

    STEP 4 - RESEARCH YOUR CHOSEN TURBO

    Once you have chosen a turbo or narrowed it down to a short list, I have found the best way to research is to find someone with the same setup. Before you start sending heaps of pm's have a read through their threads as they may have already answered alot of your questions.


    BRIL - GT35, Emanage, upgraded fuel system, car has since been sold

    Nic - GT3582R, Nic can also get you alot of the parts you need for a single conversion

    Disturbed Fan - Garrett T04Z .82 Exh, US 550cc injectors, Apexi Neo, upgraded pump and pressure reg.

    Raverx - T04Z, stock 440cc JDM injectors, stock JDM cams, unopened head, sard fuel regulator, walbro fuel pump, Apexi AVC-R boost controller, HKS F-CON PFC fuel controller

    Sicarius 123 - HKS T51R KAI, Twin walbro pumps, Sard pressure Reg, Sard 1000cc injectors, HKS Rail, Apexi Power FC, HKS EVC 6.......

    VVTi - Garrett T04Z 1.00 Exh, Emanage Ultimate, Sard 800cc injectors, Bosch 044 Pump

    Nuggett - T04Z .84 Exh

    Lay-z - Garrett T04Z .96 Exh

    Jason - T78 built engine, heaps of mods!

    WTF - Garrett T04Z

    Wogrocket - HKS T51R, Bosch 044, pressure reg, lots of other mods........

    fetish - Garrett T04Z .84Exh

    RSOL - Garrett T04z .96Exh over 600RWHP

    jamie - Precision T67
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    STEP 5 - SUPPORTING MODS

    Intercooler

    Where to buy kits from?
    Hybrid vs Brand Name
    HKS vs Blitz
    Discussion about Hybrid Coolers
    Bar and Plate vs Tube and Fin
    Are Blitz kits bolt on?
    Greddy Kit
    Install of Jap Garage Cooler and removal of stock SMIC
    Greddy FMIC Installation



    Exhaust


    Wastegate

    Thread on Wastegate Size


    Engine Management

    Your options are either a piggy back system which still utilises the stock computer for various functions or a complete replacement computer. Piggy backs are available which control fuel only, or fuel and ignition. Stand alone computers are available as a plug and play option which plugs straight into your harness. this is cheaper as a hardwire option will be more expensive to have fitted.

    Speak to your local workshop before choosing a computer as they may only be able to tune certain types. HKS Fcon for example can only be tuned by a couple places in the country. When budgeting for engine management dont forget to allow for tuning and installation which could be $300-$1000 depending on the computer you go with.

    Computers/Piggy Back systems available:

    APEXi

    SAFC - Piggy Back controls Fuel only
    Power FC - Fuel computer. AP Engineering model required for the 2JZ. Has been discontinued. They are available but due to their demand sell for upwards of $2K.
    Power FC FAQ


    HKS

    F-CON V Pro - Stand alone system. limited workshops can tune these

    Greddy

    e-Manage Blue - Piggy Back controls fuel and ignition
    e-Manage Ultimate - Piggy Back controls fuel and ignition
    v-Manage - Variable Valve Timing Control Unit

    MOTEC

    M4
    M48
    M400
    M600
    M800
    MLS
    M2R

    AEM

    Fuel Ignition Controller - Piggy Back controls fuel and ignition

    EMS

    Stinger
    4860
    6860
    8860

    Haltech

    E6X
    F10X
    E6GMX
    E8
    E11v2

    WOLF

    V500

    Supra Forum threads worth reading:

    Discussion on MOTEC
    HaltechE6X vs E11v2
    AEM vs MOTEC

    Boost Control


    Fuel System


    Bosch 044 In Tank Installation
    Fuel Dampener Bypass Mod
    12V Fuel Pump Mod
    MKIV Fuel Pump Upgrade Guide
    Sard Injector Lag Times

    Driveline


    Engine Internals


    Suspension and Brakes


    STEP 6 - PURCHASING


    Its often cheaper and therefore more attractive to purchase from overseas, however keep in mind that goods worth over $1000 will attract import taxes and duty, and should you have a problem with your products its alot more difficult to deal with an overseas supplier than a local one.

    There are heaps of online stores available. These are just some of the ones I have purchased from in the past:

    Nengun
    Greenline
    Horse Power in a Box
    Tweak It
    Xspeed
    Tuneagent
    Elmhurst Toyota - Genuine Parts
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